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meantime, new talk from the obama administration that the u.s. could decide to pull all remaining troops out of afghanistan by the end of next year. the deputy national adviser for strategic communication would not rule that out during a conference call with reporters. >> that would be an option we would consider because again the president does not view the negotiations as having a goal of keeping u.s. troops in afghanistan. >> the pentagon said thousands of troops may be needed beyond 2014 to contain al qaeda who currently has 66,000 troops there. all of this comes with president obama scheduled to meet with hamid karzai friday at the white house. karzai is in washington and will meet with a group of senators including mitch mcconnell. joining us is retired four-star ynl and vote vets.org who served twice in i wack. thank you very much for joining us. general, i will start off with you. many intricate or believe that the president's choice in john kerry and check hagel indicate withdrawing more troops and leaving far fewer in that country and a
meantime, new talk from the obama administration that the u.s. could decide to pull all remaining troops out of afghanistan by the end of next year. the deputy national adviser for strategic communication would not rule that out during a conference call with reporters. >> that would be an option we would consider because again the president does not view the negotiations as having a goal of keeping u.s. troops in afghanistan. >> the pentagon said thousands of troops may be needed...
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, the continuum of the bush administration to the obama administration. john brennan doesn't just come out of the bush administration he's been there for four years of president obama. and they're involved with the drone program. i just came from qatar where i was discussing climate and i went to al jazeera are and interviewed the only journalist held at guantanamo for years. he was never charged and released after six years. held in afghanistan and guantanamo. he was tortured and constantly interrogated about who were the bosses at al jazeera are. an astounding story of how this man was held and after freed after a 400 day hunger fast. the reason i raise this is when people watch the senate confirmation hearings of john brennan, he's an example of one of the few voices of the voiceless that can describe the reality of what's happening on the ground add guantanamo. this is not just about jeanne brennan. it goes to president obama as well who promised to close it and it's now the fourth anniversary of president obama promising to close it. >> and congress
, the continuum of the bush administration to the obama administration. john brennan doesn't just come out of the bush administration he's been there for four years of president obama. and they're involved with the drone program. i just came from qatar where i was discussing climate and i went to al jazeera are and interviewed the only journalist held at guantanamo for years. he was never charged and released after six years. held in afghanistan and guantanamo. he was tortured and constantly...
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i think obama gives him a lot of cover on this issue. i think democrats would call him a pariah if it's happening at a different time. but on the other stuff, israel thing, the views on israel, the views on hamas and previous statements i find to be fairly unpalatable but i think republicans feel the same way about obama's, you know, policies so there's no real surprise there and that's why i just don't think as valid as the inquiries are and the confirmation process is rigorous, i just don't think he's going to not be confirmed here. >> right. >> we'll ask the questions and move on. >> right. well to your point of sort of politics of how it went down and barney frank is a great case in point. >> yes. >> when hagel was floated as maybe the nominee, they said they're not comfortable with him and now that he is the nominee, barney frank said, actually, i do support him. >> of course. >> i think it's worth pointing out that the president by having this leak and letting him twist in the wind for a while, the left would have closed ranks and
i think obama gives him a lot of cover on this issue. i think democrats would call him a pariah if it's happening at a different time. but on the other stuff, israel thing, the views on israel, the views on hamas and previous statements i find to be fairly unpalatable but i think republicans feel the same way about obama's, you know, policies so there's no real surprise there and that's why i just don't think as valid as the inquiries are and the confirmation process is rigorous, i just don't...
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the obama administration said legislatively the strategy will be to try to isolated nra and you can pick off republicans and get the cooperation. i'm a little skeptical that in the house they will get votes for anything that smacks of gun control. i wonder, what i'm sensing is if there ends up being a compromise, it will center around mental health. is that your sense? >> my sense is they are going to clothe whatever they are going to try to do with as many other issues and topics as possible. video games and culture of violence and mental health care, et cetera for whatever gun control proposals there may be. that's going to be the approach. the problem that the president has and that some democrats have is they talked to the people who run their campaigns. they talked to people who want to run in red states. they have got to be careful, they are hold not to go too far because the last thing they want to do is saddle candidates with what can be described as anti-gun positions. kentucky in 2o 14 and mitch mcconnell may be vulnerable. they may have a strong democratic opponent and do you
the obama administration said legislatively the strategy will be to try to isolated nra and you can pick off republicans and get the cooperation. i'm a little skeptical that in the house they will get votes for anything that smacks of gun control. i wonder, what i'm sensing is if there ends up being a compromise, it will center around mental health. is that your sense? >> my sense is they are going to clothe whatever they are going to try to do with as many other issues and topics as...
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he's former white house deputy secretary for the obama administration. he's co-founder of priorities usa political action committee and he's a good sport who rushed over here when we suddenly changed the time at which he needed to arrive. thank you for hustling over here. i really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> is this a punch the hippie moment? is the white house concerned by the critique of drones from the left or do they share any of the aspects of that critique? >> well, even if you just take this back a step from talking about whether we're just talking about the left who has a critique or the american people who have a right to know certain things about what the government is doing, i think it's worth noting that the cia is accountable and they are accountable to congress and anytime congress wants to have a conversation with the head of the cia they bring him down and have a conversation with him. sometimes those conversations are open. sometimes those conversations are not. but congress does have oversight legally over what the cia is
he's former white house deputy secretary for the obama administration. he's co-founder of priorities usa political action committee and he's a good sport who rushed over here when we suddenly changed the time at which he needed to arrive. thank you for hustling over here. i really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> is this a punch the hippie moment? is the white house concerned by the critique of drones from the left or do they share any of the aspects of that critique?...
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the obama administration knows that it's got a difficult fight on its hands. this is why the latest gun reform task force has been so wide reaching. the white house is hoping to overwhelm the nra by building a massive coalition of groups committed to change. it's the same type of strategy the obama team used in two presidential campaigns that, well, worked pretty well. the nra has a lot of power, no doubt. but the combined strength of all of the groups meeting with vice president joe biden can overwhelm the nra this time. biden says that he will deliver recommendations to the president on tuesday. the time for change is right now. it is a moment in history we cannot let spin to outer space and be gone forever. if they can't do it now, when can they do it? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you're thinking. tonight's question, will the obama administration get gun legislation passed? text a for yes and b for no. you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we encourage you to do that. we'll bring the results later on in the show. joining me tonight
the obama administration knows that it's got a difficult fight on its hands. this is why the latest gun reform task force has been so wide reaching. the white house is hoping to overwhelm the nra by building a massive coalition of groups committed to change. it's the same type of strategy the obama team used in two presidential campaigns that, well, worked pretty well. the nra has a lot of power, no doubt. but the combined strength of all of the groups meeting with vice president joe biden can...
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>> the obama administration missed their opportunity. president obama told me that they just did not expect the banking sector to bounce back as quickly as it did. right they were. they were on their death bed and suddenly they had massive profitability. and the window closed before the white house and the pressutreas really understood it was there. that was a huge missed opportunity. it's not just what they give to the politicians, it's their lobbying operations. you have people who are managing lobbying operations, who are part of government. it becomes very difficult to do it once that window is closed and the systemic risks that the congressman talked about are still there. >> congressman peter welch and richard wolffe, thank you both so much. stay with us. much more ahead. >> thank you. ♪ what do we want to build next ? that's the question. every day. when you have the most advanced tools, you want to make something with them. something that helps. helps safeguard our shores. helps someone see through a wall of fire. helps those n
>> the obama administration missed their opportunity. president obama told me that they just did not expect the banking sector to bounce back as quickly as it did. right they were. they were on their death bed and suddenly they had massive profitability. and the window closed before the white house and the pressutreas really understood it was there. that was a huge missed opportunity. it's not just what they give to the politicians, it's their lobbying operations. you have people who are...
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barring a collectively experience, there will be no postpartisan era during the obama administration, obviously we hoped for something better conceded david axelrod, obama's long time close advisor in an interview. and to the extent that the president can do more, he will. but this is largely a function of the decision on the republican party to try and thwart him at every turn. as a political strategy, as for the next term, i think a lot of it will end up having to do with how the republican party sees the future. survival is a strong instinct. if republicans think there is a political advantage to them personally to continue this manichean struggle then that doesn't bode well. >> a debate who is responsible for the lack of bipartisanship in washington. i'm not going to even go there. that said -- >> you should recommend people read my article, though. >> go there. >> you aren't really arguing this is just the republicans fault, are you? >> first of all, let me say what a pleasure it is to be on a panel with arianna huffington. it was on my bucket list. now, i can die in peace. >> ca
barring a collectively experience, there will be no postpartisan era during the obama administration, obviously we hoped for something better conceded david axelrod, obama's long time close advisor in an interview. and to the extent that the president can do more, he will. but this is largely a function of the decision on the republican party to try and thwart him at every turn. as a political strategy, as for the next term, i think a lot of it will end up having to do with how the republican...
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do you believe it is a top priority of the obama administration? i mean keeping out in front of the public obviously is going to be a big part of this happening. and of course ramping up pressure on lawmakers to make the change. we have also seen the national rifle association in recent week take some very aggressive steps to protect their backyard, so to speak, the way they're trying -- giving clinics to arm -- to teach teachers in some states such as ohio and utah, how to use firearms in this discussion of firearms in schools. so how does the obama administration in your opinion make sure that this is a top priority and that the mitch mcconnells of the world can be politically overrun? >> i do believe this is a leadership moment. i think it's a leadership moment for our president. i'm pleased that the steps that he has taken with the biden group. i think they are headed in the right direction. i believe they have a good panel of experts, which includes law enforcement officers from around the country. but it is a leadership moment. and it's reall
do you believe it is a top priority of the obama administration? i mean keeping out in front of the public obviously is going to be a big part of this happening. and of course ramping up pressure on lawmakers to make the change. we have also seen the national rifle association in recent week take some very aggressive steps to protect their backyard, so to speak, the way they're trying -- giving clinics to arm -- to teach teachers in some states such as ohio and utah, how to use firearms in this...
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administration, and he represents barack obama better than basically anybody. not only did they correct when he was white house chief of staff and budget director, but their values are aligned, and so this would be going right at the president who, as jeff sessions knows, deserves to have his own people in the cabinet. this whole presunmps that you object to somebody that's a brilliant nominee just because you don't like his politics, that's not the american way. >> welcome to the republican party of 2013. jonathan alter and jared bernstein, i wish we had more time. thank you. >>> coming up, a memo to mitt romney. the car guy. >> i drive a mustang and a chevy pickup truck. ann drives a couple of cadillacs actually. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. jonathan alter and jared [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business ca
administration, and he represents barack obama better than basically anybody. not only did they correct when he was white house chief of staff and budget director, but their values are aligned, and so this would be going right at the president who, as jeff sessions knows, deserves to have his own people in the cabinet. this whole presunmps that you object to somebody that's a brilliant nominee just because you don't like his politics, that's not the american way. >> welcome to the...
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i lost governor napolitano to the obama administration. i lost governor sebelius. >> what does he need to do next then? >> one of the people that's considered and probably will wind up in the cabinet, no insider information, is jennifer granholm. the former governor of michigan, a terrific, smart, able woman. >> no longer in tv. >> no longer in tv. and i'm telling you, if i'm worried about who's in the inner circle, i want the number one person in the inner circle to be someone that, you know, is attuned with me and that's valerie jarrett. >> i'll read from "the washington post" and up all day and i want your incite. obama needs some binders of women. about all of the white guys, what a shame. not an outrage but a shame. a face of power that president obama has chosen to present to the country and the world with his second term cabinet pick is striking except for the african-american president at the top of the pyramid for its retro look, white and male. it's mad men goes to washington except peggy is leaving. i will pose this question tha
i lost governor napolitano to the obama administration. i lost governor sebelius. >> what does he need to do next then? >> one of the people that's considered and probably will wind up in the cabinet, no insider information, is jennifer granholm. the former governor of michigan, a terrific, smart, able woman. >> no longer in tv. >> no longer in tv. and i'm telling you, if i'm worried about who's in the inner circle, i want the number one person in the inner circle to be...
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and the obama administration should have seen this coming. they could have somehow and still can send out signals of what they intend to do with these higher decisions and the departure of nancy ann diparlo means there have got to be more women in the pipeline that the obama administration will appoint. i don't see how they can't be doing it because women were the backbone of the obama support for reelection. >> if we look at modern times and what past precedences have done, we look at president george w. bush increasing the number of women in his cabinet for 19% of his first term and the 24% in his second. president bill clinton saw the percentage of women rise from 27 to 44%. do you think that this could be the first time that we don't see the needle moving forward for a second term administration if president obama doesn't make some really sharp moves now to correct the diversity problem? >> think the pressure will be on for him to make sure that we don't see white men across the board the way we've seen in these early appointments. this i
and the obama administration should have seen this coming. they could have somehow and still can send out signals of what they intend to do with these higher decisions and the departure of nancy ann diparlo means there have got to be more women in the pipeline that the obama administration will appoint. i don't see how they can't be doing it because women were the backbone of the obama support for reelection. >> if we look at modern times and what past precedences have done, we look at...
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when we seed the obama administration back in for a second term? >> a couple things. the polls also showed lindsay lohan polled lower than congress. thank god for lindsay lohan pap thank you very much. we appreciate that. the first thing. the second thing and more important point is how you frame the question. and i think lieutenant governor is exactly right. we we want to be the party that reagan and frederick douglas and all of those great minds that kind of brought this coalition of folks together around the idea of individual freedoms, you know, that respected the rights and liberties of individuals, or do we want to be a pup tent party where we sit up in the corner of the world. and that's going to be the struggle over the next couple of years and we're again going back to the first question, the chris christies and the bobby jindals of the world can really begin to carve out this new space. look, everybody is not going to want to play, thomas. they're just not. you're going to have everybody look at and use the stupid rhino craziness and all of that. ignore the
when we seed the obama administration back in for a second term? >> a couple things. the polls also showed lindsay lohan polled lower than congress. thank god for lindsay lohan pap thank you very much. we appreciate that. the first thing. the second thing and more important point is how you frame the question. and i think lieutenant governor is exactly right. we we want to be the party that reagan and frederick douglas and all of those great minds that kind of brought this coalition of...
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as we head into a second administration with president obama, our country is at a crossroads. we need i think our leaders to hold people accountable and to stick up for working families. the poor and the elderly. they have given enough. we can get more revenue. we just have to have the guts to do it. we don't need our leaders to stand in front of big donors and not have the guts to make the decisions of what's right for america. the folks that have to pay more are the bush era tax cuts. those recipients in my opinion. we can get more out of them. and of course it's all about the loopholes, isn't it? well, how are we going to change tax policy? washington if we can't get anything passed in the senate? the entire lynchpin to the 113th is going to be what is harry reid does with changing the rules for the filibuster. then we can move to get to these tax loopholes that has helped the wealthiest americans in this country. it's all about ideology. what do you believe in? do you believe the lower 80% of americans should actually serve up a little bit more to make this thing right? be
as we head into a second administration with president obama, our country is at a crossroads. we need i think our leaders to hold people accountable and to stick up for working families. the poor and the elderly. they have given enough. we can get more revenue. we just have to have the guts to do it. we don't need our leaders to stand in front of big donors and not have the guts to make the decisions of what's right for america. the folks that have to pay more are the bush era tax cuts. those...
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, which has been the case by the way, not just in the obama administration but in the bush administration and clinton administration. for example, i -- jack lew came before the budget committee a couple of years ago, and i'm a member. i said, mr. lew, give me your understanding of the role that wall street played in terms of deregulation and deregulation of wall street that helped cause this terrible recession? he didn't think so. most economists do think so. all of those issues concern me. jack lew is a decent guy and smart guy and knows the budget. i want people in the administration prepared to stand up for struggling working families and are prepared to deal with wall street, not simply come from wall street. >> sir, you're on record about jack lew. i want to get you on record about the breaking news that jay rockefeller announcing he's not going to seek another term come 2014. he's been a five-term senator from west virginia. what does this mean to the balance of power in the senate? >> well, i'm not an expert on the politics of west virginia. jay rockefeller has been a wonderful sen
, which has been the case by the way, not just in the obama administration but in the bush administration and clinton administration. for example, i -- jack lew came before the budget committee a couple of years ago, and i'm a member. i said, mr. lew, give me your understanding of the role that wall street played in terms of deregulation and deregulation of wall street that helped cause this terrible recession? he didn't think so. most economists do think so. all of those issues concern me....
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this is not really -- the obama administration knows that the last thing they want to do is to portray themselves as anything even close to confiscating guns. that's why even in their language, they talk about curbing gun violence. they don't use the word gun control. they do that as a way to try and avoid some of this insane talk about hitler who you should never, never, by the way, invoke because that is -- >> i entirely agree and i think all of us wood. >> absolutely. everyone would, and i think it diminishes any intelligent discussion of how to curb gun violence when you go that way. >> absolutely. i want you all to hear from the pied piper of lunatic conspiracy theories on the right. take a listen, please, to the one and only rush limbaugh. >> talking about guns and executive orders. if given the chance, they'd take your gun away from you. what in the world are you talking about? executive orders for what? taking guns. confiscation. >> ryan, he appears to be whipping up a frenzy that has no basis in fact. isn't this also highly irresponsible knowing that there are people in this c
this is not really -- the obama administration knows that the last thing they want to do is to portray themselves as anything even close to confiscating guns. that's why even in their language, they talk about curbing gun violence. they don't use the word gun control. they do that as a way to try and avoid some of this insane talk about hitler who you should never, never, by the way, invoke because that is -- >> i entirely agree and i think all of us wood. >> absolutely. everyone...
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brennan is someone who is kind of showing the continuity between the bush and the obama administrations, and it is something that, let's be honest, the progressive democratic wing hasn't wanted to speak out about, but i think you need to do it issue by issue and stand for, as the president said, i believe in his inauguration, his first one, that we don't have to trade our security for our values. it's incumbent upon us as citizens to continue to speak about that. >> here's the problem, though. what you said is absolutely right. then when you figure out the calculations on the ground because people are trying to be strategic and practical and practicing matic at the same time. they say, look, i want to make an effort to resist the president on strategic basis. then i throw in with these neo cons over here if i do that and they are smearing him at will. >> i agree there is a trend -- >> what about people who are the in middle? >> look what happened to the senate and the flight of the moderates? olympia snow, dick louinger, kay bailey hutchison, ben nelson, they are gone. chuck hagel is ha
brennan is someone who is kind of showing the continuity between the bush and the obama administrations, and it is something that, let's be honest, the progressive democratic wing hasn't wanted to speak out about, but i think you need to do it issue by issue and stand for, as the president said, i believe in his inauguration, his first one, that we don't have to trade our security for our values. it's incumbent upon us as citizens to continue to speak about that. >> here's the problem,...
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administration sort of trying to reshape how they think about things and drawing down the war in iraq, u.s. troop presence there, i got off a white house conference call. you're looking at now a pentagon and a white house that's sort of thinking about conflict s differently. using drones and lethal force in that way rather than full scale war, escalating in a country and a war and that will continue the criticism that the white house is secretive about the drone program. they don't talk about it and almost don't acknowledge it and clear that the president is committed to this and an issue from the left. >> david, as s.e. said, i think the left did not for most or all of president obama's first term really hold him accountable on drones the way maybe you would have expected them to do or tried to with the national security policies under george w. bush. it seem there is's a natural opportunity at least maybe to pursue some of the answers to ask some of questions that weren't asked the last four years in the hearings of john brennan as the cia director. is that something you expect will
administration sort of trying to reshape how they think about things and drawing down the war in iraq, u.s. troop presence there, i got off a white house conference call. you're looking at now a pentagon and a white house that's sort of thinking about conflict s differently. using drones and lethal force in that way rather than full scale war, escalating in a country and a war and that will continue the criticism that the white house is secretive about the drone program. they don't talk about...
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there are certain things the obama administration could do on the mental health front and on enforcing existing laws when it comes to tracking guns through the computer system that was set up. we have to come together. i think it is one of those enough is enough moments. it's one of those pivotal moments. i believe it is happening. but i do want to say to the viewers, it's really up to you, because it's going to take courage for certain colleagues to step up to the plate. and we have to make sure people know that if they do the right thing, it will be noticed, and it will be rewarded by support. >> senator boxer, thank you for your leadership on this. i appreciate your time. >> thanks. >> on "the ed show." thank you so much. share your thoughts with us on twitter and facebook. we always want to know what you think. >>> coming up, gun clubs claim they're training hundreds of teachers to carry guns in schools. but are they telling the truth? we've got the facts about firearms and safety of students, next. >>> coming up, hypocrisy in the house of representatives. we'll look at the republi
there are certain things the obama administration could do on the mental health front and on enforcing existing laws when it comes to tracking guns through the computer system that was set up. we have to come together. i think it is one of those enough is enough moments. it's one of those pivotal moments. i believe it is happening. but i do want to say to the viewers, it's really up to you, because it's going to take courage for certain colleagues to step up to the plate. and we have to make...
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you may get a faster transition from a purely political perspective, this is what the obama administration would like. now, how the transition goes and we've seen all this in iraq before and it didn't play out as everyone thought. the idea that there is a large number of troops in afghanistan or any number of troops in afghanistan frankly is something that the average person in the united states does not understand and does not think needs to keep happening. stan mcchrystal is coming on our show on monday, and his take will be interesting indeed. well timed. he has a new book out, but we want to talk to him about what's happening right now in afghanistan. you see a second term barack obama, much more confident, less intimated by the generals, feeling that he has a potential defense secretary who could stand up to the generals because he is a former enlisted man. you know chuck hagel well. this is a young man that enlisted for vietnam, was given the assignment of going to nato in germany, and said no, i want to go to vietnam, and here they're walking in, so we're going to hear from presiden
you may get a faster transition from a purely political perspective, this is what the obama administration would like. now, how the transition goes and we've seen all this in iraq before and it didn't play out as everyone thought. the idea that there is a large number of troops in afghanistan or any number of troops in afghanistan frankly is something that the average person in the united states does not understand and does not think needs to keep happening. stan mcchrystal is coming on our...
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. >> true, but this is -- karzai must look at the leadership of the second obama administration and see a message coming for him then. what the troop levels will be after 2014 and will there even be u.s. troops there? >> ruth marcus, the white house is telling me that it was not a slip of the tongue. it was a very specific statement by ben rhodes in his briefings, pre-briefi pre-briefing, before the karzai visit, the zero option of troops 2014 is an option. it's all on the table. >> that the zero option is something that should scare not just president karzai, but from my point of view it should scare us because it basically says we give up, we quit, the progress that we made is untenable, and we might as well not even try to keep it because from the military officials that i have spoken to they don't need tens of thousands of soldiers, but they need a force, maybe -- several thousand to 10,000 to maintain the progress that has been made, and if you give that up, you are giving up a lot of things, including just to bring this whole issue together, including a lot of the progress that's
. >> true, but this is -- karzai must look at the leadership of the second obama administration and see a message coming for him then. what the troop levels will be after 2014 and will there even be u.s. troops there? >> ruth marcus, the white house is telling me that it was not a slip of the tongue. it was a very specific statement by ben rhodes in his briefings, pre-briefi pre-briefing, before the karzai visit, the zero option of troops 2014 is an option. it's all on the table....
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here's why the administration hasn't pushed back. they know that when all is said and done, this won't be the reflection of what the second term of president obama is going to look like. i think you can look at the history of where the administration was and people think that just now the timing and the roll-out probably hasn't been best because we have now gone three in a row, now four in a row. >> it should be noted that susan rice was really president obama's probably first choice. >> so blame john mccain for these problems. >> they did push back, actually. they released a picture after the "new york times" put that picture out of all these men advising the president on the budget, and they put out another picture just yesterday of a bunch of the senior women staffers in the white house -- valerie jarrett, lissa -- nancy andrew parrell, who is a chief of staff, and number of other women. it's not true that he is surrounded by men. voo. >> there is another diversity issue that has not to do with gender or race or ethnicity, but div
here's why the administration hasn't pushed back. they know that when all is said and done, this won't be the reflection of what the second term of president obama is going to look like. i think you can look at the history of where the administration was and people think that just now the timing and the roll-out probably hasn't been best because we have now gone three in a row, now four in a row. >> it should be noted that susan rice was really president obama's probably first choice....
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i think the president and administration need to do a better job. i'm just being honest. >> chris, as we look at this, the obama cabinet compared to that of president clinton or president bush, is this just leaving open, i guess, a weak spot for the president moving forward? as chris brings up, everybody was quick to jump on mitt romney on the women comment. and now the president may not be towing the line he led? >> first of all, four years out of obama, you're most likely to a women on the tee at augusta than at a cabinet meeting at the white house. the president laid out the three cabinet picks and said these are the best three america to serve these jobs. you take somebody like chuck hagel who has already signaled to the iranians he's taken off any military strikes in the event of them having nuclear capability, that this can't be the best personality we have. anti-israel and so forth. so not only did he ignore any women in the picks, he's picked people who are not qualified. >> when you talk about anti-israel, talk about what you mean. that's b
i think the president and administration need to do a better job. i'm just being honest. >> chris, as we look at this, the obama cabinet compared to that of president clinton or president bush, is this just leaving open, i guess, a weak spot for the president moving forward? as chris brings up, everybody was quick to jump on mitt romney on the women comment. and now the president may not be towing the line he led? >> first of all, four years out of obama, you're most likely to a...
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early january he might put this out in the first week of his new administration. is the iron so hot at this moment that he really does have to strike here and now? >> because there are republicans worried about the future of their party if they don't do something, because it surprised me frankly after this election you didn't hear what you've heard after a few republican losses that there wasn't anything wrong with the party per se. neath needed to message it better. on immigration it was just the voices calling for the -- calling for the preliminary opposition to any reform, much quieter than they have. we don't know if we're going to hear them bring it up again when the house comes back. a lot of people in the tea party movement, very influential in the base, very influential because the base agrees with them, weren't really loud on immigration, but back when we talked about 2007, people like steve king were at the forefront of stopping this, and we're going to start hearing from them again. we'll see if there's enough republicans to overwhelm them. an immigrati
early january he might put this out in the first week of his new administration. is the iron so hot at this moment that he really does have to strike here and now? >> because there are republicans worried about the future of their party if they don't do something, because it surprised me frankly after this election you didn't hear what you've heard after a few republican losses that there wasn't anything wrong with the party per se. neath needed to message it better. on immigration it was...
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president obama is going to be setting policy. what chuck hagel is going to be doing is cutting the budget in the filigree and pentagon and t extent, i think, managing this o sort of shift in focus president obama has talked about toward the asia pacific region where trouble is a-brewing and we better pay attention to it. i think those two tasks are what chuck hagel is going to be asked to do. those are the questions and answers i will be paying particular attention to. >> joining me is chief white house correspondent and political director and host of "t "the daily rundown," chuck todd. you heard dan senor, who vehemently has pretty strong opinions about chuck hagel. i don't know about this opposition. it seems very singular and extreme. i haven't read or played john cornyn in a while. it seems like we have to go back to the same old well to find the opposition. am i wrong or is there growing opposition? >> i think you're right it is singular. i want to pick up on a point dan was making and noting, asking, i don't know if it was
president obama is going to be setting policy. what chuck hagel is going to be doing is cutting the budget in the filigree and pentagon and t extent, i think, managing this o sort of shift in focus president obama has talked about toward the asia pacific region where trouble is a-brewing and we better pay attention to it. i think those two tasks are what chuck hagel is going to be asked to do. those are the questions and answers i will be paying particular attention to. >> joining me is...
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but not to the top of the administration and no pathway in barack obama's cabinet. >> are you kidding me? >> you've got to be a little troubled. >> you've got to be a little troubled. come on, mika. that's a good sporting tribe, but you're not going to get into the hall of fame for spinners for that one. >> i'm not spinning. i'm not spinning. >> so you're saying that he's making -- putting policies forward is that help women all across america but at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> there are women working at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> we know there are. >> we're talking about a couple of cabinet positions that are being filled. and why don't you name the -- and it's not just gender, but its exact moment in one's career and timing and, for example, our international situation. you tell me if john kerry's right for the job. is he right for the job? >> yes. >> is chuck hagel right for the job? >> sure. >> should we discriminate against them? because they are right for the job. >> so you're suggesting that there are no women as qualified as men for these positions. >> i think the moment ha
but not to the top of the administration and no pathway in barack obama's cabinet. >> are you kidding me? >> you've got to be a little troubled. >> you've got to be a little troubled. come on, mika. that's a good sporting tribe, but you're not going to get into the hall of fame for spinners for that one. >> i'm not spinning. i'm not spinning. >> so you're saying that he's making -- putting policies forward is that help women all across america but at 1600...
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there was never any question that obama wouldn't want him at his side for a second term. and i think it's great for joe biden that people are finally seeing that and he's not just sort of the brunt of late-night jokes. now, he will be the brunt of a few more late-night jokes because he's going to say something, i'm sure, tomorrow or the next day that makes everyone cringe, but he's so smart and he's so talented. he's joe biden. >> -- obama that the ceo, the mark of a great ceo or the top three or four appointees, hillary clinton, joe biden, that's what a great ceo does. it's the people around them. >> david? >> mika, i was just going to make this historical point which is kind of ironic. it was joe biden back in 1994 who told democrats who were trying to get an assault weapons amendment into his crime bill -- >> right. >> -- that they shouldn't do that. that they were going to tank his crime bill, and they were doing all of these good things. and ultimately dianne feinstein and others prevailed in this amendment. they got the assault weapons ban through. now here he is to
there was never any question that obama wouldn't want him at his side for a second term. and i think it's great for joe biden that people are finally seeing that and he's not just sort of the brunt of late-night jokes. now, he will be the brunt of a few more late-night jokes because he's going to say something, i'm sure, tomorrow or the next day that makes everyone cringe, but he's so smart and he's so talented. he's joe biden. >> -- obama that the ceo, the mark of a great ceo or the top...